Today’s Intune Collective Salon discussion is the first in a series of discussions spotlighting critical perspectives for creating work cultures that meaningfully foster diversity, belonging, inclusion, and equity.


In this episode, Christine welcomes Karen Fleshman, Founder of Racy Conversations and Author of “White Women, We Need to Talk,” and Jared Karol, Author of upcoming book, “A White Guy Confronting Racism,” to discuss the role of white leaders in bringing about racial equity. Dignity, Equity, Inclusion and Belonging—DEIB—isn’t an HR issue or a special initiative; it is a necessary human development strategy for all organizations.

Christine, Karen and Jared discuss all the different conditions and catalytic events that spurred  this imperative change that affects not only  individuals’ lives but also, work environments. They clearly define specific DEIB terms and offer insight and frameworks on how individuals, specifically people who identify as white, can do the work to provide safe space and support their fellow BIPOC peers.

Christine, Karen and Jared also offer recommendations on what  white leaders within corporations can do to consciously approach DEIB work and advocate for their BIPOC employees. It requires that in every aspect of your corporation, “everyone with a face” learns, practices, embodies and models your organization’s values around  equity.

Finally, they encourage us to envision what the world and workplace could be if all white leaders join in bringing about racial equity.

To find out more about Karen Fleshman (she/her/hers) and her work with Racy Conversations, check out her website here. You can purchase her book, White Women, We Need to Talk: Doing Our Part to End Racism here. Connect with Karen on LinkedIn, Twitter and Facebook.

To find out more about Jared Karol (he/him/his) and his work check out his website here. You can learn more about his upcoming book, set to release in the fall, A White Guy Confronting Racism: An Invitation to Reflect and Act here. Connect with Jared on LinkedIn.

Karen, Jared and Intune Collective have all collaborated on sharing a robust list of resources so you can begin to do the work.


Quotes that were referenced:

“It’s one thing to say that all are welcomed, and it’s another to say that I had you in mind.” Patrice Palmer (they/them)

“If you have come here to help me, you are wasting your time; but if you have come because your liberation is bound up with mine, then let us work together.” Lilla Watson

Resources Recommended by Karen:

Resources Recommended by Jared

Resources Recommended by Intune Collective


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